User talk:Kghbln/archive 1

Page deletion
I removed the pages you tagged with the removal template and gave you the rights needed to delete pages. --Jeroen De Dauw 13:08, 14 November 2010 (CET)


 * Hi Jeroen, thank you for deleting these pages and for your faith in me. I appreciate this. Cheers --kgh 15:58, 15 November 2010 (CET)

Testing SMW
Which testing page do you mean? Thanks for the link. Cheers, --Dan Bolser 23:13, 16 November 2010 (CET)


 * Hi Dan, I just answered on your talk page. Cheers --kgh 23:14, 16 November 2010 (CET)


 * Me too... I wonder if they'll ever fix MW 'discussion' ;-) --Dan Bolser 17:50, 20 November 2010 (CET)


 * Actually they came up with a very interesting and useful solution: LiquidThreads I very much like it because it helps you to keep track of you conversations. The only downside is that it gets a bit messy if you have heaps of parallel conversations or if you are watching too many pages. --kgh 01:35, 21 November 2010 (CET)


 * Perhaps the version of LQT I used was too early, because I didn't like it (compared to threaded PHP BBS). Thanks for the other reply. --Dan Bolser 02:02, 21 November 2010 (CET)


 * Probably, maybe. :) They are still putting much effort into this extension and an "complete" overhaul is planned too, but even now it is both usable an useful. Cheers --kgh 13:14, 21 November 2010 (CET)

Reply to welcome message
Hi kgh. I just replied to your nice welcome message here: Dave Myers' talk page Ciao! - Dave Myers 21:29, 16 May 2011 (CEST)

wiki farmer
Hi,semantic mediawiki is a free wiki farmer?--Msnhinet8 07:50, 21 May 2011 (CEST)
 * No, but there are services around, e. g. Referata. See here. Cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 09:20, 21 May 2011 (CEST)
 * ok,I understand.--Msnhinet8 10:59, 21 May 2011 (CEST)

Represneting dates
Hi I have just joined :) I was looking for help and suggestions about how to represent 'uncertain' dates in MediaWiki. Sometimes we only know roughly when a medieval writer was born, or that he died before or after a certain date.  I haven't had much success in building anything workable here. Let me know if you have any suggestions. Edward Ockham 19:37, 28 May 2011 (CEST)


 * Good question. It is not possible to do it directly according to here. In cases like this I tend to create a separate property for notes. There is a mailing list you may want to try to get another idea. Cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 20:46, 28 May 2011 (CEST)
 * thanks. I think I might just represent them as strings.  As long as they sort OK.  Edward Ockham 21:08, 28 May 2011 (CEST)
 * No problem. This does not prevent false entries on open edit wikis though. Cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 21:12, 28 May 2011 (CEST)

skin
You can provide give Referata monaco skin?--Msnhinet8 12:37, 3 June 2011 (CEST) Because wikia has been discontinued.--Msnhinet8 12:37, 3 June 2011 (CEST)
 * Hi Msnhinet8, in case you are looking for the Monaco skin you may have a look here. I do not know if monaco is part of the available choice of skins on Referata. Perhaps you would like to ask them directly. Cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 12:54, 3 June 2011 (CEST)
 * Thanks.--Msnhinet8 13:38, 3 June 2011 (CEST)

log in
Hi,My wiki [維基電影]Unable to log in,Referata staff Seems to rest today,so I do not know how to do.--Msnhinet8 06:56, 5 June 2011 (CEST) Can you help me?--Msnhinet8 06:56, 5 June 2011 (CEST)
 * Hi Msnhinet8, I cannot help you in this case since I am not able to control Referata in any respect. The only possibility is to ask Referata staff. --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 14:57, 5 June 2011 (CEST)


 * Thank you.--Msnhinet8 08:17, 6 June 2011 (CEST)

Searching for templates
Dear Kghbln,

do You have an answer to this question: Searching for templates? Jan--87.186.19.66
 * Hi, I belive Yaron answered your question. Cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 15:35, 11 July 2011 (CEST)

docinfo vs docu templates
Hi there, Kghbln!

There is something weird is going on with two documenting templates: Template:docinfo and Template:docu. Look at the French page for introduction to SMW and the German one. At the the bottom of the French page I see the translations for English, Russian and Japanese languages. At the bottom of a German page I see the translations only for Spanish and Holland languages. Can you guide me a little how to fix that? --Katkov Yury 14:51, 2 September 2011 (CEST)


 * Hi Katkov Yury, thank you for your message. The simple reason was that the Russian, French and English pages were already using the new docinfo whilst the Spanish, Dutch and German pages were still using the old docu template. It is not possible to mix the two templates on pages in different languages on the same topic. I just added the docinfo template to the Spanish, Dutch and German pages and now you can see all language versions. :) There is one important thing when utilising docinfo on another page than the English master page. You have to enter the revision number of the English master page you translated manually for the property "Docinfo master rev" instead of using the magic word . Otherwise the revisions will never match and have the desired effect to show just outdated pages (master revisison not equal slave revision). Cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 15:33, 2 September 2011 (CEST)


 * A bit foolish question of mine: where can I find the revision number of the English master page? Is it the number that appears in oldid parameter in the Permanent link? (like for http://semantic-mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Help:User_manual&oldid=8194 it's 8194) --Katkov Yury 10:23, 14 September 2011 (CEST)


 * No, that is not a foolish question at all. Yes this number is the revision id. In case you would like to know the revision id of specific version, you may just hover over the revision date in the version history of a page. Depending on the browser (not sure about IE ;) something like a "balloon" pops up somewhere in the browser telling you the revision id of this specific version. Cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 10:34, 14 September 2011 (CEST)


 * Thanks!


 * I've started to move Russian pages from docu to docinfo and suddenly realized that some English pages are still powered by the docu template. :( Isn't it better to have only docinfo? If so, can I move pages to it? --Katkov Yury 10:49, 14 September 2011 (CEST)


 * Indeed. The pages you encountered are the pages I have not changed so far. The plan is to move from docu to docinfo. During the transition period we still have both on this wiki. :| Cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 12:10, 14 September 2011 (CEST)


 * Oh no, there is also Template:language there! :) For example in Main pages. --Yury Katkov 22:36, 19 September 2011 (CEST)


 * Except for rare cases this template is no problem at all. Pages using this template are predominantly as is and do not need updating, e.g. news items. The biggest exeception is the main page. However this one gets updated each month and thus we as translators do not really need reminders on this. Cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 22:50, 19 September 2011 (CEST) Still I will have to go through them to see if some should use docinfo.

Result formats category query issue
On Category:Result Formats, only the SMW formats are listed in the table. When I remove  from the queries conditions, the other formats also show up. Why is this? --Jeroen De Dauw 17:37, 6 September 2011 (CEST)


 * Mea maxima culpa. Because I have not changed from docu to docinfo. :( Since docu does not provide the property "Docinfo status" no result is possible. But you are right, I should change this. Actually I wanted to do this last week. I will do so today. Cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 17:41, 6 September 2011 (CEST)


 * Done. :) --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 02:28, 7 September 2011 (CEST)

I want a little pet
Hi there! It's me again about docinfo and docu templates. I have exported all pages that transclude the old docu template from swm.org and ask a bot to convert them to docinfo on my little wiki. Here you can see that this works well : http://ailab.ifmo.ru/ssp_wiki/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&hidebots=0

So can I have an account with Bot privileges to run the bot here, on SMW wiki? --Yury Katkov 15:16, 21 September 2011 (CEST)


 * Hi Yury Katkov, I am just at SMWCon Fall. Thus I am not able to look into this in detail. Actually a task like this may already be done on this wiki with Ext:ReplaceText. However, this does not solve the problem of inserting all the other properties additionally needed or provided by docinfo. So one would have to go through these pages anyway … Cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 11:20, 22 September 2011 (CEST)


 * This is of course right, we need at least master rev. Still don't you think that converting all docu's to docinfo with only three parameters is still better than the situation that we see now - when some translated versions are not visible from the basic English pages? I mean it's alvays better to have as many language flags in a bottom of an English pages as possible, to encourage the potential translators...--Yury Katkov 22:25, 22 September 2011 (CEST)


 * Yeah, there is something to it. Please register a bot account and give me a note. I grant a bot flag to it. Cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 23:05, 25 September 2011 (CEST)


 * Greetings! Here I am. But as I can see there is another Frankenstein out there : User:Kghblnbot --Ganqqwertybot 09:53, 26 September 2011 (CEST)


 * True, it was a kind of your idea. :) Since I am not a coder I will use my Frankenstein for ReplaceText which is actually a kind of bot. I just granted the bot flag. Make sure that you only replace the documentation pages and not news items, etc. Is were a way to drop the trailing space after Cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 10:04, 26 September 2011 (CEST)


 * I think all documentation pages are in Help namespace so I'll replace only them and not the pages in other namespaces. --Yury Katkov 11:37, 26 September 2011 (CEST)


 * That's true. We should be safe then. --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 12:50, 26 September 2011 (CEST)


 * There are still some pages in Property namespace that use docu. Look here please. Do they have to be replaced? --Yury Katkov 17:02, 26 September 2011 (CEST)


 * You detected the resistors. I am planning to transfer the documenation to the Help namespace at some stage but this should not prevent you from changing the template. --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 09:18, 27 September 2011 (CEST)

Appearance of obsolete parameter in docinfo
Another issue with docinfo: it's weird how the template handles th obsolete parameter. Take for examples these two pages: Help:Custom_units_1.5 and Help:Installation_1.5.3. In the second one we have horrible Template:docinfo/obsolete warningbox. Whe we don't have this box on a first page? --Yury Katkov 17:16, 26 September 2011 (CEST)


 * Good question! Next one please. ;) I do not think that this warningbox is too bad since it directly points to the relevant effective page. Some nice formatting and it should be very ok. What I cannot answer is why both pages show a different behaviour. Probably the semantic data used for the first page is not up to date. I am sure that some edit of that page will make the warning box appear. Cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 18:23, 26 September 2011 (CEST)

Duplicate Holland translations?
Hey! Look at Help:User_manual, it has two Netherlands translations! It's kind of weird, do you know which Netherlands users are active in wiki today and can get rid of worse version? --Yury Katkov 13:40, 29 September 2011 (CEST)


 * Hi, that's a first on this wiki. Saruman is our man in this case. Cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 13:51, 29 September 2011 (CEST)


 * Could you please delete the page Help:Handleiding? The duplicate flag problem is still here because of it. A-a-a-a-and attention please! - we don't have a single page that uses docu template! Horray, my congratulations! We've successfully migrated from docu and now have much of a headache with docinfo! --Yury Katkov 18:34, 1 October 2011 (CEST)


 * Done. Thank you for completing the transition from docu to docinfo. May you specify your headache with docinfo? Seem to work for me. Cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 14:57, 2 October 2011 (CEST)


 * Not really a headache but still I have several issues with it. I'll describe them in the next topic of discussion

RE: Testing SMW
Sorry about that! I wasn't paying attention and thought I was on the test site. I'll probably end up setting up my own test environment at some point so I can play with things more in-depth. Oldiesmann 19:21, 29 October 2011 (CEST)

SMWCon Fall 2011 Videos
The videos are (or will be as soon as they are finished uploading) as close to done as they'll get in the immediate future. There were some issues with a couple of the discs, and I will upload those if I can get full copies of the files at some point in the future.

I would say that we can go ahead and put an announcement up (with the above caveats) --GWSuperfan 00:55, 1 November 2011 (CET)


 * Hi GWSuperfan, thank you for leaving a note. :) I will do a news item on this. I just read that you already spread the word on the mailing list. :) Cheers and once again thank you very much for your efforts. Cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 09:58, 1 November 2011 (CET)

Move array and hash formats docs to semantic-mediawiki.org
Since all format definition are maintained in semantic-mediawiki.org maybe you could move array and hash formats docs from mediawiki.org to semantic-mediawiki.org.


 * Hi MWJames, thank you for noticing me. I will do this. Cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 23:01, 10 November 2011 (CET)


 * Done. Cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 22:56, 11 November 2011 (CET)

Moving content
Would you be so kind to move:
 * Help_talk:Table_format to Help:Table_format. See also recent discussions on.
 * Help_talk:Jqplotbar_format to Help:Jqplotbar_format
 * Help_talk:Jqplotpie_format to Help:Jqplotpie_format

Thanks --MWJames 10:37, 13 November 2011 (CET)


 * Done. Cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 21:41, 13 November 2011 (CET)

Avoid spam user creation
It seems their are a lot of spam users created, maybe Extension:ConfirmAccount should be used so that new accounts requires the approval by a bureaucrat.

See also Restrict account creation


 * Heiya MWJames, it is true that the spam problem proves to be persistent. I thought about ConfirmAccount too, but so far I was a bit reluctant. Probably it will be the solution of last resort. Thank you for your recommendations. I will be working on a solution. Cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 15:20, 17 November 2011 (CET)


 * The new QuestyCaptcha generates an error if you try to create an account and then click the "more info" link. The error is
 * Fatal error: Call to a member function cookiesNeeded on a non-object in /domains/semantic-mediawiki.org/www/w/extensions/ConfirmEdit/QuestyCaptcha.class.php on line 67
 * If I'm not mistaking, this is the fix? Greetz, --Jan &quot;Saruman!&quot; S. 09:32, 19 November 2011 (CET)


 * Heiya Jan, thanks for making me aware of this problem. Until this is fixed we have to hope that people are smart enough to know what to do without this help page. Probably this will be done during the SMW 1.7.0 upgrade of this wiki. Cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 18:16, 19 November 2011 (CET) PS I just filed a bug report for this. It will probably be fixed soon since ConfirmEdit will be deployed bundled with MW as of version MW 1.18.+


 * Heiya Jan, this issue has just been fixed with r104867. Cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 17:43, 1 December 2011 (CET)


 * There might be a newly-registered spam user and its spam user_talk page. --Linforest 16:05, 2 February 2012 (CET)


 * Yes, I just fixed him. :) Cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 16:20, 2 February 2012 (CET)

NOT for page-type pages?
Hi Kghbln. Do you think that these tips could be worth adding to the documentation? Cavila 17:07, 27 November 2011 (CET)
 * Heiya Cavila, thanks for noticing me. I will answer there. Cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 23:46, 27 November 2011 (CET)

CSS and html errors
Howdi-ho! It's me again. There are 176 CSS errors according to W3C Validator and some html errors as well. Is it possible to release smwvector skin somewhere so that I or other developers can fix it and send patches? -- Yury Katkov 10:54, 9 January 2012 (CET)


 * Heiya Yury, no problem. :) As far as I know smwvector is the same as vector except for the difference that it has another name and allows for separate css-pages. Let's have a look what the upgrade to MW 1.18 has to offer. I guess it is just vector causing this. Cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 11:35, 9 January 2012 (CET) NS I it as bad on one of your wikis with vector?


 * Unfontunately you're right - smwvector just adds some 10 errors to 167 Vector's errors. :((( Yury Katkov 00:37, 11 January 2012 (CET)


 * Skinning for MediaWiki is a pain in the neck. I have given up trying to validate MediaWiki skins. Cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 00:59, 11 January 2012 (CET)

Need permission to create a zh-hans version for the Main page
I need permission to create a Simplified Chinese (zh-hans) version for the Main page. Thanks. Linforest 03:42, 26 January 2012 (CET)


 * Hi Linforest, I will answer on your talk page. Cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 12:55, 26 January 2012 (CET)


 * Thank you so much for help, Kghbln!Linforest 01:58, 27 January 2012 (CET)


 * You are welcome. Cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 15:02, 27 January 2012 (CET)


 * Thanks again, Kghbln! I created Template:WotM (zh-hans) manually but it's not good enough yet.  --16:00, 27 January 2012 (CET)


 * Not at the moment, but as soon as you translate the first teaser you will see the magic. --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 16:25, 27 January 2012 (CET)

three rows that collapse into one row
When translating the Help:Configuration, There are three rows that collapse into one row. See the row 3rd~5th in the first table for installation settings as the following:

http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:%E9%85%8D%E7%BD%AE#.E5.AE.89.E8.A3.85.E8.AE.BE.E7.BD.AE

I don't know what's wrong with them? Can you give a hand, kgh? Many thanks. --Linforest 07:51, 10 February 2012 (CET)


 * Hi, the table class forces a width of 100%. Since there is also the Adimin-TOC involved for the first table, it does not work. The way to change the appearance is to add style="width:80%;" to narrow the first table. I guess that is what you were aiming at. Cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 13:23, 10 February 2012 (CET)


 * In the first table, all content of the 4th row and the 5th row are concatenated with the description of the 3rd parameter. This problem seems to have nothing to do with the table width or the web browser. Please note the page's rev version when you check it.  Now I found a workaround.  --Linforest 14:40, 10 February 2012 (CET)


 * Terribly Sorry, it's my carelessness. A closing nowiki tag in the 3rd description was missing when I translated the text. Thanks. --Linforest 15:07, 10 February 2012 (CET)


 * Ah, I see. I totally misunderstood your message. Great that it sorted out. Cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 17:57, 10 February 2012 (CET)

Category naming
"MW extension" should be "MW extensions" right? --Jeroen De Dauw 18:36, 10 February 2012 (CET)


 * Actually no, I am going to change SMW extensions to SMW extension too, since this is the preferable name. At the moment we still may do this. Cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 18:37, 10 February 2012 (CET)

SMWDoc
Hi! The parser function doesn't seem to work well. Have a look on a pages Help:CSV_format, Help:Ergebnisformat_csv it hasn't parsed. --Katkov Yury 08:42, 19 August 2011 (CEST)


 * Hi, as the matter of fact the parser function presently does not work at all. The reason is, that it is an new feature introduced with SMW 1.6.0. This wiki was not been updated so far. To already place the parser function into the instructions is just a preparatory step. Cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 09:26, 19 August 2011 (CEST)


 * This should be working now, too. Cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 02:05, 13 February 2012 (CET)

Rename user
Hi there! I have one very unimportant issue: how hard is it to rename user here at semantic-mediawiki.org ? It would probably be better for me to be Yury Katkov user, that my nickname. Yury Katkov 01:38, 5 January 2012 (CET)


 * Heiya Yury, currently this is not possible since the necessary extension is not installed. I will see what may be done. In the meantime I ask for your patience. Cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 23:03, 5 January 2012 (CET)


 * Hieya Yury, Markus installed Renameuser for us. Thus I may now help you. I will drop a note on your user page. Cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 01:58, 13 February 2012 (CET)

Add Cite extension?
Hi Kgh! I constantly feel the need of the tool for creating the references and footnotes. The user guide have many parts where it would be better to wrap the sentence in a footnote instead of distract the user's attention to many details. Take the Help:Inline_queries page for example. It focuses on wiki-editors that usually are not very much interested in performance and caching issues. In my opinion the note about that should be a footnote or expandable section.

During the translation I retell the article trying to make the ideas clear enough for Russian reader. Sometimes the 7-word sentence turn into the long-long paragraph. Here I need footnotes a lot more because there are many ideas worth consider that can distract the user from the main line of though during the manual.

The proposition is to install the Cite extension for footnotes. What do you think? Yury Katkov 09:58, 5 January 2012 (CET)


 * Heiya Yury, I agree that we should have Cite installed. I will see what may be done. Please have a little patience. What would be better: Inserting the admin content into the note or linking to a new admin related section with the note? Cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 23:54, 5 January 2012 (CET)


 * I'm not sure about that: sometimes the note can be really big and should be section, sometimes the footnote is enough: IMHO it really depends on the size of the remark. Yury Katkov 18:22, 7 January 2012 (CET)


 * Thanky to Markus Cite is online now. :) Cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 01:59, 13 February 2012 (CET)

Bugs with Factbox
Hi Kgh! I'm sure that you have noticed that bugs yourself so that would be just a reminder. Something... no, everything is wrong with the Factbox on this wiki.
 * 1) First of all there is no borders between the Factbox table, no header of a table
 * 2) The RDF Feed is too close to the title of the Factbox
 * 3) When we click Preview on article edit Factbox appears and there is a cute piece of apparantly javascript code in the left upper corner appears. This code causes tears apart the tabs from the main wiki area and the result looks ugly.
 * 4) User:Ganqqwerty/testforbug - for some reason in this case docinfo template adds Factbox and the cute little piece of js appears on a saved page - that's serious and I couldn't repair it. __NOFACTBOX__ can't help here.

I've no idea how to repair Factbox without access to the wiki's code but I think that it's very important to fix it: it's the main wiki for SMW and everything should work ideally and perfectly here - especially the semantic stuff! -- Yury Katkov 10:50, 9 January 2012 (CET)


 * Heiya Yury, we cannot do this since it is a SMW related problem. We should wait for the update to SMW 1.7.0, which is currently in the pipeline. This should fix it. So patience is still needed here. Cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 11:32, 9 January 2012 (CET)


 * Today this wiki was update so these issues should now be gone. Cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 02:00, 13 February 2012 (CET)

Access policy for editing . Reviewing.
Hi Karsten!

What do you think about user rights here? I mean, it's pretty weird:
 * 1) it's possible to anonymously (!!) edit pages located in all namespaces except NS_HELP
 * 2) most of the content is precisely on NS_HELP
 * 3) for a newbie user it's not possible to make even small changes (like fixing typos) in Help namespace, they have to contact admins for that

I'm writing for Wikipedia for some time as well as for other wikis and I always see the same pattern: people like to make very tiny changes and they make it. For example the grammar and punctuation in my Help pages are awful, some sentences looks awkward. I would be glad to see these mistakes fixed by the others - but to make changes in documentation one have to make too much operations.

My propositions:


 * 1) deny anonymous editing. It's spam most of the time. Probably it's reasonable to allow anonymous users to edit Talk pages - with CAPTCHA on editing.
 * 2) allow editing the Help pages for every registered user. It's risky, probably we can allow this right only to the users that have their personal page in NS_USER namespace.
 * 3) Enable  reviewing with the help of  FlaggedRevs extension. By default show to anonymous users the page that has been reviewed. This works perfectly on Russian Wikipedia although they are more liberal.

Sincerely yours,

Yury Katkov 05:58, 11 January 2012 (CET)


 * Hi, I think it is not necessary to change the current anonymous editing policy since it will have little effect. But allowing everybody who took the effort of creating a user page to be a contributor, seems fair enough to me. Why not giving them a trust bonus. In case they do bullsh we could still block them. We should not use FlaggeRevs since this is a monster. However, lucky us, Yaron created a new extension about 1 1/2 years ago to cater for small and medium sized wikis. I will ask to have ApprovedRevs installed on this wiki. Cheers and thank you for putting so much thought into this wiki. Great! --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 00:01, 12 January 2012 (CET)


 * Ok, FlaggedRevs is really easier to use. About anonymous guys - I see that Saruman delete some spam contributins and block anonymous spamers every day. What do you think about allowing anonymous most only after solving ReCaptcha? By the way I'm fighting spam on semanticweb.org, maybe we can get some techniques from there (although smw.org is not so popular among spammers). Yury Katkov 00:16, 15 January 2012 (CET)


 * You mean ApprovedRevs. ;) I think semanticweb.org is as popular as semantic-mediawiki.org when it comes to the number of visitors, I even believe that we have more visitors here than they have on their wiki. The reason they are getting more spam is that they currently do not use the same spam techniques as we do. We switched from ReCAPTACHA to QuestyCAPTACHA mid November 2011 on this wiki and the number of spammers, no matter if IP or registered user went down by a felt 95 %. We do not really have a problem here with spam right now, since we have an active community of up to seven people who are watching this wiki on a regular basis and are admins. This is not the case with semanticweb.org, I suppose. And yes, I will do some cleaning up after a stronger CAPTCHA mechanism was introduced there. :) Before that it does not really make sense. Cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 01:02, 15 January 2012 (CET)


 * Markus has now installed ApprovedRevs for us and eased the barrier to edit the Help namesspace to autoconfirmed. Let us see how things develop from now. --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 02:03, 13 February 2012 (CET) PS He also installed some counter spam extensions to help the cause.

thanks for great news
It's so cool that we now have all extensions we need. Thanks to you and Markus! Now the only thing I need is to find some time to start working on semantic-mediawiki.org again. Yury Katkov 13:14, 13 February 2012 (CET)

Can you update the Template Docinfo for the language zh-hans
Hiya, kgh! Can you update the Template Docinfo for the language zh-hans? I have updated it in a local copy, but it cannot be uploaded due to the file type restriction of this site. How can I send you the source file? Many thanks. --Linforest 13:56, 15 February 2012 (CET)


 * Heiya, you have got mail. Cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 16:42, 15 February 2012 (CET)


 * Hi, kgh! I've sent you the source file via email. Thanks. --Linforest 16:57, 15 February 2012 (CET)


 * That was fast. :) I will update today. Cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 17:07, 15 February 2012 (CET)


 * That's awesome! Cheers. --Linforest 17:13, 15 February 2012 (CET)


 * Done. I have also added the docinfo on your page. Cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 21:26, 15 February 2012 (CET)

Interwiki map
Hi, dear collegue! Maybe add into Interwiki map also "translatewiki	//translatewiki.net/wiki/$1" (based on Interwiki_map)? --Kaganer 14:36, 27 February 2012 (CET)


 * Hi, I have added translatewiki as interwiki shortcut for translatewiki.net. I guess we could do links to them on our release pages. Good idea. Cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 16:49, 27 February 2012 (CET)
 * Good ;) --Kaganer 17:04, 27 February 2012 (CET)

Scenario portal
I deleted previous comments as there were no longer valid. Now, you can have access to the Scenario portal either by using the popup (see ) or running Special:RunQuery/Query/Scenario.

One minor thing, right now User:MWJames/data hosts the scenario data, which shouldn't be but the template namespace does not allow SMW properties so for the time being I leave at this until this is sorted and fixed.

If it isn't too much trouble would you add the following to the Template:Result format below Categories






 * Done. :) --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 21:18, 19 March 2012 (CET)

Approval
Hmz, clicked an "approve" button because I'd wanted to show support for an action, but turns out we've got "approved revs" activated, so I've done something more significant. Maybe we need some admin comms slightly more direct than these talk pages. Do you happen to have IRC? Wanna drop in at #semantic-mediawiki? --Jan &#34;Saruman!&#34; S. 13:51, 9 March 2012 (CET)


 * There was nothing wrong with this. I will drop in. Cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 13:53, 9 March 2012 (CET)

Survey portal
Just delete the previous note since the reported problems are no longer valid due to the update to SF 2.4.1. You might have a look at the Survey portal, select a form, and make try run if you like. The user feedback form is accessible via Form:User feedback as member of Category:Survey form.
 * I was surprised by the quick upgread. We are on a new server too. Cool --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 21:19, 19 March 2012 (CET)

Special property
I saw you did some work on the special property page and created Help:Special property Has type. Just a thought but why not store those information directly in Property:Has type naturally people will look their first. Meaning that you get 2 for 1 combining hands-on explanations with examples. --MWJames 14:21, 16 March 2012 (CET)
 * When you just look at English it might be a solution to have it on the property page directly. Then it comes to other languages on this wiki this is not possible. I would rather have it consistent across all languages. Once there was documentation for datatypes in the type namespace too and it proved to be a lot of work to move it out of there. It is not likely that this will happen to the property namespace, but it proved to be no problem to have the documentation for types in the help namespace. I believe we will experience the same for properties so we may have consistency for them too. After all the property page shows just a list of properties as examples. Linking to them is not a problem at all. Cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 16:52, 16 March 2012 (CET)

Interwiki / language/ whatever links
A while ago I saw something in the log about you chaning some of the links that allow easy pointing to other wikiws. How is this done? I'm only finding docs on how to use them, not on how to configure them :/ --Jeroen De Dauw 18:26, 18 March 2012 (CET)


 * Heiya Jeroen, this is done with the Interwiki extension. Have a look at Special:Interwiki which is quite self-explanatory. Cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 20:21, 18 March 2012 (CET)

I want to update the file SMW_LanguageZh_cn.php
I want to update the file SMW_LanguageZh_cn.php, but I don't have SVN or something like that installed. Can you help me upload it onto the SVN if I complete the translation update? Thanks. --Linforest 14:20, 20 March 2012 (CET)


 * I actually do not have commit access to SVN, or better written, to Git. MW moves to version control with Git tomorrow. My recommendation is to open a bug at bugzilla and upload the new file as a patch. Open the bug for the Semantic MediaWiki extension and not for i18n (just mention it in the subject line for the bug). Most probably Jeroen will be the one to include the file after things are sorted out on Git. Cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 19:31, 20 March 2012 (CET)


 * Thanks, kgh. Cheers --Linforest 23:59, 20 March 2012 (CET)

Template:City
Just created the Template:City using San Diego as example. The template still uses class="smworgtable" but maybe a different class with a different colour could be nice in order to distinguish it from the other content. --MWJames 11:29, 29 March 2012 (CEST)


 * Great, this wiki looks better by the edit. A different sample class is not bad. :) I will add one. Cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 00:43, 30 March 2012 (CEST)


 * Done. Looks very cool. Thank you and cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 01:10, 30 March 2012 (CEST)

Update my organization in OSDA page
Hi, The [Open Semantic Data Association OSDA] page is protected. Do you mind changing my affiliation from TCG Software Services to Ontodia, LLC? Thanks! --Joel Natividad 22:26, 2 April 2012 (CEST)


 * Done. :) Cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 22:38, 2 April 2012 (CEST)

Page deletion
Hi Karsten, can you delete BibTeX (example), the example has been moved into a scenario template Template:Query/Scenario/BibTeX/en and can be reached via. Cheers --MWJames 13:30, 16 May 2012 (CEST)
 * Hi James, done. :) Cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 00:53, 17 May 2012 (CEST)

Additional namespace
Hi Karsten,

Would it be possible to add a new namespace (Demo: / Example: / Scenario: and disable the talk on that namespace, search also can be disabled) in order to separate sample scenarios (such as the whole cities and country pages) from other content related topics such as help or development. The reason why I'm asking I'd like to make some sample pages which relates to a more professional oriented user group/scenario ( "psychological disorders" ) reason for that is that the example on cities are "good" but for professional oriented users to grasped the idea on how to apply SMW in their environment might not be as sufficient.

I would be nice to have a scenario about physics (hierarchy/classification of particles) or biology (hierarchy/classification amongst a species) as well. --MWJames


 * Hi James, from my point of view it would be possible. :) I will forward your suggestion to the ones in charge of the systemadminisors of this wiki. Cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 18:11, 15 June 2012 (CEST)


 * Hi - why not just put all this stuff in the main namespace? Yaron Koren


 * Well, my intake on this is that the website is about documentation and help and while those holding the main focus without any sufficient "demo" data it is difficult to demonstrate various aspects of SMW but the "main" namespace should be reserved for things that matters on the primary of this websites purpose. Demo content or explanatory data are of secondary nature, which should stay invisible for the general search or for any robot. (and using a different namespace helps cluster content by its nature of origin and purposes of usage where in contrast categories only divided content by its ontological characteristics) --MWJames 19:57, 15 June 2012 (CEST)


 * This is a good idea. I have created a new namespace "Demo" now (choosing the shortest of the proposed names). It does have a talk page, but it is not searched by default. Existing demonstration content could also be moved to this namespace. As always, only "clean" example pages should be on this site; all test pages should be on http://sandbox.semantic-mediawiki.org/. --Markus Krötzsch 12:09, 19 June 2012 (CEST)


 * Thank you Markus for considering James' idea. Ideed, a change of policy concerning test pages is not part of the package. :) Cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 14:53, 19 June 2012 (CEST)


 * Thanks, one minor thing when I tested Demo:London it seems that semantics ($smwgNamespacesWithSemanticLinks) are not enabled on the Demo: namespace. --MWJames


 * Having semantics in this namespace would ideed be of help. :) I will try to do my very best. Cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 19:11, 20 June 2012 (CEST)


 * It is working now. Thank you Markus. Cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 19:57, 20 June 2012 (CEST)

Renaming Ganqqwerty one more time
Hi! Could you please rename me to Yury Katkov? Yury Katkov 14:10, 25 June 2012 (CEST)
 * Heiya Yury, done. :) Cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 16:26, 25 June 2012 (CEST)
 * Great! Hopefully now I look very official! :) Yury Katkov 21:42, 25 June 2012 (CEST)

German Wikipedia
Hi Karsten! You are one of the contributors of the page Semantic MediaWiki on German Wikipedia. Can you add a line about SMWCon to the page? In Russian Wikipedia I just added the Community paragraph where I described mailing lists and the conference. Yury Katkov 22:29, 2 July 2012 (CEST)


 * Heiya Yury, a good idea. I have added the respective section here. I used your google translated version as a template for this section. :) Cheers --&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93; 00:25, 4 July 2012 (CEST)